{"id":6408,"date":"2017-12-15T23:51:29","date_gmt":"2017-12-15T23:51:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/?p=6408"},"modified":"2025-02-14T14:32:14","modified_gmt":"2025-02-14T14:32:14","slug":"16-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/16-8\/","title":{"rendered":"16.8 asathyam aprathishtam thE"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><small>SrI:\u00a0 SrImathE SatakOpAya nama:\u00a0 SrImathE rAmAnujAya nama:\u00a0 SrImath varavaramunayE nama:<\/small><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/16\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chapter 16<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/16-7\">&lt;&lt; Chapter 16 Verse 7<\/a><\/p>\n<h3>SlOkam \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/16-8-original\/\">Original<\/a><\/h3>\n<p><em>asathyam aprathishtam thE jagadhAhur anISvaram |<\/em><br \/>\n<em> aparasparasambhUtham kim anyath kAmahEthukam ||<\/em><\/p>\n<h3>word-by-word meaning<\/h3>\n<p>thE &#8211; Those demoniac persons<br \/>\njagath &#8211; the world<br \/>\nasathyam aprathishtam anISvaram Ahu: &#8211; not saying that &#8220;is pervaded by brahmam (lord), supported by brahmam and controlled by brahmam&#8221;;<br \/>\naparaspara sambhUtham &#8211; &#8220;that which is not created by mutual union (of male and female)<br \/>\nkim anyath (ithi Ahu:) &#8211; which entity exists?&#8221; &#8211; they say;<br \/>\n(jagath) kAma hEthukam (Ahu:) &#8211; (hence) the world exists based on lust &#8211; they say.<\/p>\n<h3>Simple Translation<\/h3>\n<p>Those demoniac persons are not saying &#8220;this world is pervaded by brahmam (lord), supported by brahmam and controlled by brahmam&#8221;; they say &#8220;Is there an entity which is not created by mutual union (of male and female)? (hence) the world exists based on lust&#8221;.<\/p>\n<h3>Rendering based on ALkoNdavilli gOvindhAchArya swAmy\u2019s English translation of gIthA bhAshyam<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8216;Say they: \u201cthe Universe is unreal, without prop, without Lord; and what else is it but the product of mutual union, (of male and female) having lust for (its) cause?\u201d&#8217;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>Asatyam<\/em> = Unreal, or that which is not an effect sprung from Brahm Who is Truth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>Apratish\u1e6dham<\/em> = Without prop <em>i.e.<\/em>, not having Brahm for its (Universe\u2019s) rest or prop. Says an authority: \u2018This Universe is borne on the head of the Serpent-King, the Universe (in its turn) supporting the chain of spheres along with (their denizens) men, demons, and gods.\u2019[1. <em>Vish: Pur:<\/em> II-5-27: \u2018Ten-eyam n\u0101ga-varye\u1e47a, \u015biras\u0101 vidh\u1e5bit\u0101 mah\u012b.\u2019]<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>An\u012b\u015bvaram<\/em> = Without a Lord or God-less; <em>i.e.<\/em>, they say that this universe is not under the Government of a God \u2014Myself\u2014 Who is Infallible-willed, Supreme Brahm, Lord of all etc., as declared for example in:\u2014 \u2018I am the Origin of all; from Me operates everything\u2019 etc., (<em>Gi:<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/10-8-original\/\">X-8<\/a>).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They also <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wiktionary.org\/wiki\/prate#Verb\">prate<\/a> thus: \u201cDo we find it (Universe) anything more than the product of the mutual union of male and female sexes \u2014the products known as man, beast etc? It is quite evident that it is no more than this, and that lust (or sexual passion) is the only cause.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/16-9\">&gt;&gt; Chapter 16 Verse 9<\/a><\/p>\n<p>archived in <a href=\"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\">https:\/\/githa.koyil.org<\/a><\/p>\n<p>pramEyam (goal) \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/koyil.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">http:\/\/koyil.org<\/a><br \/>\npramANam (scriptures) \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/granthams.koyil.org\">http:\/\/granthams.koyil.org<\/a><br \/>\npramAthA (preceptors) \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/acharyas.koyil.org\">http:\/\/acharyas.koyil.org<\/a><br \/>\nSrIvaishNava education\/kids portal \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/pillai.koyil.org\/\">http:\/\/pillai.koyil.org<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SrI:\u00a0 SrImathE SatakOpAya nama:\u00a0 SrImathE rAmAnujAya nama:\u00a0 SrImath varavaramunayE nama: Chapter 16 &lt;&lt; Chapter 16 Verse 7 SlOkam \u2013 Original asathyam aprathishtam thE jagadhAhur anISvaram | aparasparasambhUtham kim anyath kAmahEthukam || word-by-word meaning thE &#8211; Those demoniac persons jagath &#8211; the world asathyam aprathishtam anISvaram Ahu: &#8211; not saying that &#8220;is pervaded by brahmam (lord), &#8230; <a title=\"16.8 asathyam aprathishtam thE\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/16-8\/\" aria-label=\"Read more about 16.8 asathyam aprathishtam thE\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,25],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6408","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-chapter-16","category-simple"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6408","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6408"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6408\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16201,"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6408\/revisions\/16201"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6408"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6408"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/githa.koyil.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6408"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}